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Iron Man, history....
blaisepascal
I'm not a big comic book fan. I don't really go out and buy them, nor do I keep current with any current story line. I have, however, devoured comic book collections of my friends, read lots of manga, and in general have an appreciation for the medium and the characters.

None of my friends whose long-boxes have been the subject of my careful unbagging, reading, and rebagging of issues have been Ironman fans. X-Men, yes. Hulk, yes. Batman, yes. Spiderman, a little. I even think I've read lots of Scarlet Witch stories. But except for cameos and in passing, I've not been engrossed in Ironman history.

Which, of course, makes me a perfect test audience for the movie which opened tonight.

skitten asked me about Ironman, as I was watching trailers. Beyond "Tony Stark is a wealthy industrialist who decided, for reasons I don't know, to build himself a flying hardsuit and play the hero", I didn't have much.

But that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with hardsuits from other literature. The term "hardsuit" apparently comes from Bubblegum Crisis (as opposed to "powered armor", or similar terms). Admittedly, Tony Stark doesn't look like a "big metal gorilla", as Starship Trooper powered armor does, but it's in the same family.

What's the tree of influence? Starship Troopers came out in 1959; Tony Stark first flew in 1963. Were Lee, Lieber, Heck, and Kirby inspired by Heinlein's hardsuits? How much influence was Ironman on the mecha and powered armor of later anime and manga?

And, more importantly, does anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy of Uchu No Senshi, the 1988 anime version of Starship Troopers, complete with reasonably accurate hardsuits??

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Beyond some T&A and a good lightshow, Starship Troopers, the film was a big disappointment. HOWEVER, all is not lost, as there is the very wonderfully animated, better written and acted animated version entitled Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles. Infinitely better than the film with Casper van Can'tAct. Check it out here:
http://misterhook.tripod.com/roughnecks/index.htm
And here:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=Roughnecks+-+The+Starship+Troopers+Chronicles&x=0&y=0

I specifically didn't mention, or refer to the work by Paul Verhoeven that resulted in Virginia Heinlein demanding that her deceased husband's name from the resulting film. I'm not interested in it.

I've considered netflixing Roughnecks, as I've heard good things about it, but I've not done so yet.

It is well worth it. Lots of fun, a good lightshow, better acting, and great stories. With an interesting plot device - it is told from the POV of a Fednet journalist embedded with the Roughnecks.

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